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> <channel><title>Comments on: Wordcamp 2007 Future State Wishlist for WordPress 2.3</title> <atom:link href="http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/</link> <description>Digital Strategy Solutions, Change Management Leadership, Business Speaker, Payments Technology Convergence</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:11:18 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: MarkTCollins</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-42087</link> <dc:creator>MarkTCollins</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:52:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-42087</guid> <description>Hello,
I am Mark, soon 40    , I teach sports in high school
see you,
Mark, my little blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2rouesfrance.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moto&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p><p> I am Mark, soon 40    , I teach sports in high school</p><p>see you,</p><p>Mark, my little blog <a
href="http://www.2rouesfrance.com" rel="nofollow">moto</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sklepy</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-38964</link> <dc:creator>Sklepy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:34:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-38964</guid> <description>Thanks for very interesting article. btw. I really enjoyed reading all of your posts. It’s interesting to read ideas, and observations from someone else’s point of view… makes you think more.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for very interesting article. btw. I really enjoyed reading all of your posts. It’s interesting to read ideas, and observations from someone else’s point of view… makes you think more.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jameswillisisthebest</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-33408</link> <dc:creator>jameswillisisthebest</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:47:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-33408</guid> <description>This is my first post
just saying HI</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first post<br
/> just saying HI</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: WordPress 2.3 Beta 1</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32796</link> <dc:creator>WordPress 2.3 Beta 1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32796</guid> <description>[...] 2.2 due to plugin incompatibility / instability - especially podpress. As I&#8217;ve stated before, I hope that many of these more complex plugins functionality gets integrated into the core of Wordpr..., reducing this painful combatibility [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2.2 due to plugin incompatibility / instability &#8211; especially podpress. As I&#8217;ve stated before, I hope that many of these more complex plugins functionality gets integrated into the core of Wordpr&#8230;, reducing this painful combatibility [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Robert</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32399</link> <dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:42:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32399</guid> <description>Several improvements are coming in Wordpress 2.3 according to announcements at Wordcamp2007. Not wanting to mess up anything I&#039;ll let others that attended give specfics.As a first time attende I found both days interesting, informative,entertaining and the best 25 dollars I&#039;ve spent in quite a while</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several improvements are coming in WordPress 2.3 according to announcements at Wordcamp2007. Not wanting to mess up anything I&#8217;ll let others that attended give specfics.As a first time attende I found both days interesting, informative,entertaining and the best 25 dollars I&#8217;ve spent in quite a while</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andy Ford</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32395</link> <dc:creator>Andy Ford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:27:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32395</guid> <description>David,
I can&#039;t argue with that.  The current plugin situation can lead to some bad problems.
One thing Mark Jaquith said at WordCamp was that plugin developers should &quot;write better plugins.&quot;
That might sound like a cop out to some, but it is very true.  I&#039;m not a plugin developer, but I can only guess that it&#039;s possible (although I don&#039;t know either way) that there could be a lack of documentation and/or a lack of published guidelines to facilitate the writing of better plugins.
If it&#039;s any consolation, the WP team knows that the plugin system has major room for improvement, and they seem to want to do something about it.
It&#039;s a bummer that you missed the convention because you have a valid and well presented argument.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br
/> I can&#8217;t argue with that.  The current plugin situation can lead to some bad problems.</p><p>One thing Mark Jaquith said at WordCamp was that plugin developers should &#8220;write better plugins.&#8221;</p><p>That might sound like a cop out to some, but it is very true.  I&#8217;m not a plugin developer, but I can only guess that it&#8217;s possible (although I don&#8217;t know either way) that there could be a lack of documentation and/or a lack of published guidelines to facilitate the writing of better plugins.</p><p>If it&#8217;s any consolation, the WP team knows that the plugin system has major room for improvement, and they seem to want to do something about it.</p><p>It&#8217;s a bummer that you missed the convention because you have a valid and well presented argument.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Dalka</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32391</link> <dc:creator>David Dalka</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:44:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32391</guid> <description>Hi Andy,
Thanks for joining the conversation on this important issue.
Never have used Joomla. I have however wasted an entire weekend fixing the mess caused by plugins that aren&#039;t compatible with new versions. I&#039;ve spent months with broken RSS feeds due to these issues. I&#039;ve seen people abandon entire blogs due to problems that they could not fix. The current state is neither acceptable nor sustainable. This is not alot to integrate and many of these items are already standard and no hassle in Typepad.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,</p><p>Thanks for joining the conversation on this important issue.</p><p>Never have used Joomla. I have however wasted an entire weekend fixing the mess caused by plugins that aren&#8217;t compatible with new versions. I&#8217;ve spent months with broken RSS feeds due to these issues. I&#8217;ve seen people abandon entire blogs due to problems that they could not fix. The current state is neither acceptable nor sustainable. This is not alot to integrate and many of these items are already standard and no hassle in Typepad.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andy Ford</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32388</link> <dc:creator>Andy Ford</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 04:21:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32388</guid> <description>You certainly bring up some interesting points, but I don&#039;t think we want to start jamming a ton of plugins into the core - does the world really need another slow and bloated Joomla?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You certainly bring up some interesting points, but I don&#8217;t think we want to start jamming a ton of plugins into the core &#8211; does the world really need another slow and bloated Joomla?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Wordcamp 2007 : pacificpelican.us/diary</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32373</link> <dc:creator>Wordcamp 2007 : pacificpelican.us/diary</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:22:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32373</guid> <description>[...] Some are voicing their concerns about Wordpress upgradability and security issues over the last year, which is a matter that needs to be addressed. [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some are voicing their concerns about WordPress upgradability and security issues over the last year, which is a matter that needs to be addressed. [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Cheers to the WordPress 2007 Attendees - SEO by the SEA</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32370</link> <dc:creator>Cheers to the WordPress 2007 Attendees - SEO by the SEA</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:35:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32370</guid> <description>[...] Dalka shared his Future State Wishlist for WordPress 2.3, offering some interesting suggestions for the future development of WordPress. He also tagged me, [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dalka shared his Future State Wishlist for WordPress 2.3, offering some interesting suggestions for the future development of WordPress. He also tagged me, [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: whig</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32367</link> <dc:creator>whig</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:11:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32367</guid> <description>The Debian repository model works pretty well in general; if WordPress.org were to host a repository for WordPress-specific plugins it might be possible to perform an upgrade of WordPress and automatically perform required updates of plugins and other dependencies.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Debian repository model works pretty well in general; if WordPress.org were to host a repository for WordPress-specific plugins it might be possible to perform an upgrade of WordPress and automatically perform required updates of plugins and other dependencies.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rachelle Chase</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32365</link> <dc:creator>Rachelle Chase</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:06:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32365</guid> <description>Thank you, David. And LOL re: the blog suggestion. I&#039;m sorry that I did not consult you a year ago. :-) ... Will stop back by after WordPress ...
Best,
Rachelle</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, David. And LOL re: the blog suggestion. I&#8217;m sorry that I did not consult you a year ago. <img
src='http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230; Will stop back by after WordPress &#8230;</p><p>Best,<br
/> Rachelle</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Dalka</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32363</link> <dc:creator>David Dalka</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:51:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32363</guid> <description>All - I&#039;m now offering a reward - anyone who gets Matt Cutts to agree to add blog search to the homepage at WordCamp 2007 gets an interview on my blog about the experience of advocating that and about who they are.
Patrick - I look forward to seeing your notes!
Rachelle - Welcome to Wordpress! It is my hope to see you again and to make the platform a joy for you to use. It might also be quite wise of you to change the name of your blog to &quot;Finding David&quot; ;)
Heidi - I just want to hug you. I hope you can be my evangelist on these issues in person this weekend. :)
Lorelle - The best learnings I&#039;ve ever had were from being self-taught (whether Wordpress or anything else). There is one speaker on that list that I think is a poor example for a beginner to learn from as they allow neither comments nor trackbacks on their blog - which since you were a Sobcon attendee I think you would agree misses the point of the blogging conversation.
Plugins were cute when the user base was small. If plugins are to continue in a world were non-techies want self-hosted Wordpress - they either need to be validated to work and be forward compatible or incorporated into Wordpress in which case a plugin author would be given freedom from updating. The current state is not sustainable, many people are running old versions of Wordpress to sidestep this major issue.
The author of Podpress recently shut down his message board due to &quot;a lack of funds&quot;. So I don&#039;t think this is a major issue for most plugin authors - the sense of ownership and contribtuion is and the memory of the efforts must be preserved and appreciated.
I fully realize the difficulty of the challenges, but the practice of shoveling them under the rug needs to stop if the platform is to thrive and survive.
Thanks for listening.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All &#8211; I&#8217;m now offering a reward &#8211; anyone who gets Matt Cutts to agree to add blog search to the homepage at WordCamp 2007 gets an interview on my blog about the experience of advocating that and about who they are.</p><p>Patrick &#8211; I look forward to seeing your notes!</p><p>Rachelle &#8211; Welcome to WordPress! It is my hope to see you again and to make the platform a joy for you to use. It might also be quite wise of you to change the name of your blog to &#8220;Finding David&#8221; <img
src='http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Heidi &#8211; I just want to hug you. I hope you can be my evangelist on these issues in person this weekend. <img
src='http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Lorelle &#8211; The best learnings I&#8217;ve ever had were from being self-taught (whether WordPress or anything else). There is one speaker on that list that I think is a poor example for a beginner to learn from as they allow neither comments nor trackbacks on their blog &#8211; which since you were a Sobcon attendee I think you would agree misses the point of the blogging conversation.</p><p>Plugins were cute when the user base was small. If plugins are to continue in a world were non-techies want self-hosted WordPress &#8211; they either need to be validated to work and be forward compatible or incorporated into WordPress in which case a plugin author would be given freedom from updating. The current state is not sustainable, many people are running old versions of WordPress to sidestep this major issue.</p><p>The author of Podpress recently shut down his message board due to &#8220;a lack of funds&#8221;. So I don&#8217;t think this is a major issue for most plugin authors &#8211; the sense of ownership and contribtuion is and the memory of the efforts must be preserved and appreciated.</p><p>I fully realize the difficulty of the challenges, but the practice of shoveling them under the rug needs to stop if the platform is to thrive and survive.</p><p>Thanks for listening.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: totti</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32362</link> <dc:creator>totti</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:45:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32362</guid> <description>good
Thank you
http://www.moon25.com</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good</p><p>Thank you</p><p><a
href="http://www.moon25.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.moon25.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lorelle</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32357</link> <dc:creator>Lorelle</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:34:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32357</guid> <description>As usual, David, some interesting points. Some of these are things at the top of my list. However, the premise of the WordCamp conference is to bring together WordPress fans not to solve the problems in the World of WordPress, though some may come up.
The issue of Plugins and some of the points you have made are also good. Updates, alerts, and other methods to make the use and inclusion of WordPress Plugins, as well as WordPress updates, is critical to the growing success of the product, but incorporation is a tough call. It means Plugin authors lose control and income which comes from donations, gifts, and related sources. For some, while such income doesn&#039;t pay the electricity bill, it does help offset some of the costs of hosting the Plugin and continuing to support it.
There are a lot of WordPress Plugins which many people swear by that I think are unnecessary clutter, and others I think are critical which people just don&#039;t understand and fail to appreciate. Finding the ones &quot;everyone&quot; uses across the board is a tough call.
You&#039;ve brought up a lot to think about and hopefully some of it will be covered, but that&#039;s a heavy load for a fun weekend of talking and learning about WordPress. :D</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, David, some interesting points. Some of these are things at the top of my list. However, the premise of the WordCamp conference is to bring together WordPress fans not to solve the problems in the World of WordPress, though some may come up.</p><p>The issue of Plugins and some of the points you have made are also good. Updates, alerts, and other methods to make the use and inclusion of WordPress Plugins, as well as WordPress updates, is critical to the growing success of the product, but incorporation is a tough call. It means Plugin authors lose control and income which comes from donations, gifts, and related sources. For some, while such income doesn&#8217;t pay the electricity bill, it does help offset some of the costs of hosting the Plugin and continuing to support it.</p><p>There are a lot of WordPress Plugins which many people swear by that I think are unnecessary clutter, and others I think are critical which people just don&#8217;t understand and fail to appreciate. Finding the ones &#8220;everyone&#8221; uses across the board is a tough call.</p><p>You&#8217;ve brought up a lot to think about and hopefully some of it will be covered, but that&#8217;s a heavy load for a fun weekend of talking and learning about WordPress. <img
src='http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Heidi</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32356</link> <dc:creator>Heidi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:19:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32356</guid> <description>Thanks for the link:) These are great suggestions. My personal pick is the one about integrating popular plugins, it would make things much cleaner and more elegant.
Sorry you won&#039;t be there.
Heidi</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link:) These are great suggestions. My personal pick is the one about integrating popular plugins, it would make things much cleaner and more elegant.</p><p>Sorry you won&#8217;t be there.</p><p>Heidi</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rachelle Chase</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32355</link> <dc:creator>Rachelle Chase</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:05:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32355</guid> <description>Thanks for listing your concerns, David - I&#039;ve made note of them, and will try to learn from them. Unfortunately, I have nothing to add to the list, as I&#039;m new to WordPress. For once, I did not develop my current site, but hired someone else to do it for me, so I&#039;m going to Wordcamp 2007 to learn everything I can. Maybe I&#039;ll have something to share afterwards.
Best,
Rachelle</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for listing your concerns, David &#8211; I&#8217;ve made note of them, and will try to learn from them. Unfortunately, I have nothing to add to the list, as I&#8217;m new to WordPress. For once, I did not develop my current site, but hired someone else to do it for me, so I&#8217;m going to Wordcamp 2007 to learn everything I can. Maybe I&#8217;ll have something to share afterwards.</p><p>Best,<br
/> Rachelle</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Patrick Havens</title><link>http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/comment-page-1/#comment-32353</link> <dc:creator>Patrick Havens</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:30:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.daviddalka.com/createvalue/2007/07/19/wordcamp-2007-future-state-wishlist-for-wordpress-23/#comment-32353</guid> <description>Well be sure to also follow the notes we&#039;ll be writing at &lt;a href=&quot;http://wordcamp.info&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The WordCamp Report&lt;/a&gt;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well be sure to also follow the notes we&#8217;ll be writing at <a
href="http://wordcamp.info" rel="nofollow">The WordCamp Report</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
